Financial considerations from moment of diagnosis
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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 Financial considerations from moment of diagnosis
I have just been diagnosed⦠I spent just about everything I had to get to that point⦠I am fighting LTD policy from last employer⦠I have a good insurance policy with Mayo in network until my cobra runs out... I will probably lose my houseâ¦soonâ¦real soonâ¦it is over mortgaged a little and TN is a short state and the process is in motion...
Looking for direction to start planning this journey⦠My wife has been out of the workforce for 4 yearsâ¦she was just offered a jobâ¦will be starting I am a veteranâ¦.I have tinnitus that is louder than the jets I used to work onâ¦is there anything $ there? I have created a mountain of debt in the last six months, and blew out the little 401k⦠I can still drive and get aroundâ¦.I am sure I can generate a few dollarsâ¦
But, I understand a few dollars and not going to help meâ¦.probably hurt meâ¦.
Starting down this roadâ¦.
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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| Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:12 pm |
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irene selak
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:59 pm Posts: 1940
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Have you filed for Social Security Disability yet? http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/compa ... 11-pr.html Are you a Veteran from wartime ? http://www.veteranaid.org/ I hope these are helpful !
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| Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:47 pm |
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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I have not filed for SSâ¦I have a company paid Long Term Disability policy that denied me days before my trip to Mayoâ¦I have to appealâ¦this is much better than SS as I would get 60% of my last salaryâ¦
It is a 24 month period of defined as 'own job' for disability, then goes to SS definition of disabiltyâ¦and at that time I think they make you file for SS to have SS pay some of the amount.
Veteranâ¦I am a VEAPâ¦Vietnam Era Veteranâ¦but served in US and Europeâ¦not Asia
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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| Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:49 pm |
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cdw
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 298 Location: southern cali
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hi bayou..
sorry you are going thru this... in the beginning its so overwhelming.. im so sorry for your need to be here!! a few suggestions if i may?? please consider filing with the va, anyhow.. this will not only keep you busy for years, it might work.. a lot of pstd is being considered for folks that were not in vietnam, per se.. and certainly ear problems and back and walking ect.. does not have to be "in country".. only for agent orange, if im understanding correctly.. i know vets that have never gone over seas, that are receiving benefits.. not only will it possibly help with some income, but you might get some medical relief as well, its a looooooooong process.. but worth it, if you win...
can you not have ssdi and your long term disability together.???. that is a long process too.. (and we got it on the first try... but it took over year and a half for them to see us.. we got lost in the shuffle..). but again every little bit helps..
i would also suggest talking to an attorney or two!!.. maybe bankrupt attorney on keeping your house.. there are ways around losing it. depending on your area and the house ect!!.. and also an elder care attorney, as far as protecting anything you might be able to save.. for your wife and for you!! there are ways around that too.. setting up a trust and being able to move things around at different times, as needed..
i know things feel really bleak right now ,but once you get a lot of this in place, hopefully it will give you some peace!
good luck and take care... cindi
_________________ CG for hubby. started showing symptoms in 2000, at 55, diagnosed at with AD at 62, LB at 64.. vietnam vet.. has ptsd, which doubled the chances for dementia...sprayed with agent orange. showing some signs of parkinsons.
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irene selak
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:59 pm Posts: 1940
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I noticed the link I posted earlier doesn't work but this one should, this is a fast track to SS for certain reasons but worth looking into , http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/compa ... 11-pr.html Cindi, As to the VA I don't think it matters if you are in US as long as it is wartime and that person was in 1 day of that time, I am sure if I am wrong I will be corrected.
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| Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:00 pm |
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cdw
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 298 Location: southern cali
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irene , not for sure here either... i do believe war time is key in many things and where you are makes no difference...
just know that for any agent orange issues we had to prove he was in vietnam proper... if only for a day.. you had to prove you were "in county"... they even have zones and numbers pertaining to that zone...(hubby was).. thats what i was referring too.. sorry if i was unclear!! or mistaken,, which could happen easily!!! LOL
one good thing i did hear today, was that friend, who had fought the good fight for years with the va for her hubby and lost her hubby, 5 years ago AND got turned down by them, a gazillion times. got a notice last week, that they were reopening her/his case, as he died from heart problems, related to ischemic heart decease.. i have found too, that if you are in that list of 12(?) or so.. diseases that they accept now, for agent orange.. you can go on fast track also.. Parkinson is one!!
so dont throw any paper work away, even if it a huge box, like mine!! you never know when the rules might change..
_________________ CG for hubby. started showing symptoms in 2000, at 55, diagnosed at with AD at 62, LB at 64.. vietnam vet.. has ptsd, which doubled the chances for dementia...sprayed with agent orange. showing some signs of parkinsons.
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| Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:01 pm |
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LTCVT
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:33 pm Posts: 2824 Location: Vermont
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Your state may have state employees whose job is to work with veterans. I'd do some research (like ask another vet for a reference if possible) on the BEST person to help you. Yes, they are all trained to know the same VA info. but in reality, if you talk with several different people you will get several different answers. What I remember from researching this for my dad was: - if you served DURING wartime, you should apply for A&A benefits, doesn't matter where you were stationed - if you have < $80,000 in cash assets (this doesn't include your house or 1 car) you are likely to get A&A - you should also apply for medicines and dr. care through the VA - the A&A people are completely and totally different from the medical VA people, in other words, you will have to go through 2 entirely different sets of red tape -be very, very patient, do lots of followup, keep copies of everything - hopefully you still have your discharge papers. If not, once you get a VA or state VA person to help you, they can get a new copy of discharge papers or at least the info. on those that you will need for the mountain of forms you have to fill out.
Very good ideas others have given you already - elder care atty & bankruptcy atty. Also, sounds like you may be eligible for Medicaid (have to have < $2,000 in cash, though. Leave no stone unturned trying to get financial assistance.
So sorry for you dx and situation. Hope you get some positive results and please post here if/when you do - you may be able to help someone else in the same situation as you are! Take care, Lynn
_________________ Lynn, daughter of 89 year old dad dx with possiblity of LBD, CBD, PSP, FTD, ALS, Vascular Dementia, AD, etc., died Nov. 30, 2010 after living in ALF for 18 months.
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| Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:32 pm |
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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thanks to all of you!
I can see that I need to start all of this nowâ¦this will take care of my goal to make things easier for whoever will be caring for meâ¦
I did not serve in Vietnamâ¦but I see that I would be eligible as a 'wartime' vetâ¦.don't really understand the eligibity with income from SS or LTDâ¦.and I spent a good bit of time on itâ¦.but I see that I should do all of thisâ¦.it will set the groundwork for those that 'need' to do it for me laterâ¦I had not seen that veteran help site beforeâ¦
My son has been telling me to fill for my hearing and tinnitusâ¦I also see that I might be eligible for clothing allowance from a surgery that USAF did on meâ¦.time to get that done tooâ¦my son was discharged unable to reenlist due to medical issues that the USAF didn't correct the right way at the right timeâ¦he has a couple of medical ratings and a small disability pensionâ¦I believe it was the DAV..that helped him get the paperwork done and worked as his advocateâ¦
So, I see that I need to file:
LTD appeal - doing that now VA medical for ears and clothes - file now VA pension when that becomes necesary (so I should get paperwork ready now while I can) VA A&A when that becomes necesary (so I should get paperwork ready now while I can) SS when LTD makes me in 24 months (so I should get paperwork ready now while I can)
Find: Tennessee State Veterans office Elder Law Attorney
thanks againâ¦.I am sure I will learn of moreâ¦.I see I have plenty to do
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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irene selak
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:59 pm Posts: 1940
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| Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:33 am |
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robin
Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:46 pm Posts: 4811 Location: SF Bay Area (Northern CA)
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BC -
A good resource for finding elder law attorneys is naela.org.
I hope you can find someone to get you good advice on LTD vs. SSDI. Most people I know who are still working and who get diagnosed with neurodegenerative disorders file for both right away -- as soon as they get their diagnosis. I think the reason they apply for Social Security Disability right away is so that Medicare will kick in two years later. (I don't know if this is 2 years after you apply for SSDI or 2 years after your application is accepted. Usually the applications are accepted retroactively.)
Robin
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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robin,
very good point about medicareâ¦I am coming to that conclusion, alsoâ¦file everyting so medicare will be available sooner...
I am waitingâ¦stillâ¦to get my diagnosis paperwork to file my appeal for LTDâ¦was supposed to be here todayâ¦
I will start working on the SS as soon as I get the disablility workup paperwork from mayo..and all the other stuffâ¦.VA, A&Aâ¦VA medical for ears, clothing for something else they screwed upâ¦I have a lot of governement paperwrok to fill out
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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Julianne
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:46 pm Posts: 600
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Robin, I second your recommendation for the elder law attorneys on naela.org. The standards for membership are very high and every NAELA attorney I know is excellent.
Julianne
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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I think I found a couple of elder lawyers that I like from their websitesâ¦.thanksâ¦
thenâ¦
I am really in a pickleâ¦if that is the right wordâ¦in a fixâ¦for sureâ¦
I am reading on the lawyers websiteâ¦she has written articles publishedâ¦good stuffâ¦.for exampleâ¦
If I go to her an tell her I want to get advice to do things myselfâ¦while I still can think them throughâ¦she might have toâ¦she might be obligated to break the attorney trustâ¦that I would have had before this diagnosisâ¦.to decide for me that I am not able to decide for myselfâ¦or if I bring someone with me and then they decide that I can't decide for myself anymore, they can petitionâ¦.andâ¦etcâ¦.yikesâ¦
thenâ¦.everyone is going to believe that I am delusionalâ¦becauseâ¦get thisâ¦.that is one of the key features of the diseaseâ¦.
I can remember when I was blissfullly unluckyâ¦I am not feeling very lucky right now
I am being destroyed on every level that I can think ofâ¦and people on the outside think that makes one delusionalâ¦.if what is happening to meâ¦was happening to someone without the medical conditionâ¦.the last thing they would be called is delusionalâ¦maybeâ¦it would be saidâ¦that they were being attacked from every directionâ¦
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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nandel8
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:28 pm Posts: 317
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One of the things you are going to have to do is decide on a person you can trust. This is probably the one most important thing you are going to be doing in the next weeks. And you will need to give up a little autonomy. If you take that person with you to the attorney, you can have the attorney help you decide what course is the best for you.
Have you thought about seeing a counselor? Sometimes a counselor can help you sort out the options you have.
Good luck, BC.
Smiles, Nan
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BayouCajun
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm Posts: 386 Location: East TN
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okâ¦I am not delusionalâ¦
I called Alz assocâ¦.and asked for counseling helpâ¦.I was told that someone would get back to me in 24 hoursâ¦.that 'would' have been 2 days agoâ¦butâ¦rememberâ¦if I shout to loudâ¦too oftenâ¦or too soonâ¦.then I would be delusionalâ¦
Every system that I knowâ¦including meâ¦.is failing meâ¦(that might be stretching itâ¦this forum isn't failing me)â¦it sure feels like itâ¦but nowâ¦.even the institution of whiningâ¦.will be dangerous for meâ¦it will try to protect meâ¦.from meâ¦wowâ¦sounds delusional
okayâ¦.so here is the state of mind whereâ¦.the patientâ¦justifies the futility of tryingâ¦.with the feeling of â¦I'm okayâ¦you're all screwed upâ¦.
I just need a few breaksâ¦.soonâ¦
my house will go into foreclosure next monthâ¦.long term disability insurance owes meâ¦I got diagnosed almost a month agoâ¦.don't have paperwork from doctorâ¦to file appeal with LTD companyâ¦.yetâ¦.
everything is â¦..not yetâ¦.
I have no â¦.yetâ¦.leftâ¦.I don't have tomorrowâ¦.
yetâ¦.has to be todayâ¦.frustrationâ¦.
folksâ¦it really is just all normalâ¦in a wierd way
_________________ Craig - Patient - Male - 56 years old - Lewy Bodies diagnosed on March 23, 2011 - cognitive disorder NOS dx 2007 - RBD REM dx 2007 issues for 20+ years - intention tremor 1974 - other issues many years
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